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#153302 (ツ) Дон Реба
Създадено на 12.09.2025 , видяно: 402 пъти.

баце размахва сабя с негри и резаци

оригинала

оригинала на оригинала, дълбоки разкопки. не знаех че съществува

#153307 (ツ) Евлампи
Създадено на 12.09.2025 , видяно: 388 пъти.

Понякога групите са различни но ядрото зад тях е едно.

Възможно е най-архивното просто да е древния прототип на касетка а после да е с друго име и клип

#153324 (ツ) Дърти Хари
Създадено на 13.09.2025 , видяно: 366 пъти.

Аре едно изследване на ЧатГПТ на въпроса:

_ why the Volga Bulgar ruler was called "The King of Sakaliba"_

The title “King of the Sakaliba”** given to the ruler of Volga Bulgaria comes from how Arabic and Persian geographers, diplomats, and chroniclers described him during the 9th–13th centuries.

Here’s the background:

1. The word “Saqāliba / Sakaliba” (صقالبة)**

In medieval Arabic sources, Saqāliba originally meant Slavs (from the Greek Sklavenoi).

But over time, Muslim writers used it much more broadly. It could mean not only Slavic peoples but also other fair-skinned, light-haired populations of Eastern and Northern Europe — including Finnic, Turkic, and even Norse groups.

So the term became a catch-all label for the “northern peoples” that Muslim authors encountered through trade or hearsay.

2. Volga Bulgaria and its ruler**

Volga Bulgaria (on the Volga and Kama rivers, today’s Tatarstan and Chuvashia region) was a Turkic state that converted to Islam around 922 CE.

Arab travelers like Ibn Fadlan** (who visited the Bulgars in 922) and later writers described their ruler as the “king of the Saqaliba.”

They applied the term Saqāliba to the Volga Bulgars (even though they were not Slavs) because:

To the Muslim world, the Bulgars were part of the same northern trade zone that brought Slavic slaves, furs, and goods.

The distinction between Slavs and other northern peoples was often blurred in Arabic writings.

3. Symbolic and political meaning**

By calling the Bulgar ruler “King of the Sakaliba”, Muslim writers were acknowledging him as the sovereign of the northern peoples who supplied much of the slave trade (*Saqāliba* were often slaves in al-Andalus, Baghdad, and elsewhere).

It was also a way to situate the Bulgar ruler within the Islamic diplomatic framework: a recognized king over a recognizable ethnonym.

📌 So in short: The Volga Bulgar ruler was called “King of the Sakaliba” because in Arabic geographical and diplomatic tradition, Saqāliba referred broadly to the fair-skinned northern peoples — and the Bulgars, as prominent Muslim rulers of that northern zone, were seen as their “king.”

Would you like me to show you some direct quotes from Ibn Fadlan and later geographers** who use this title for the Bulgar ruler?

Here are a few quotations and summaries from medieval Muslim sources (primarily Ibn Fadlan) that use the term malik aṣ-Ṣaqāliba (“King of the Sakaliba”) for the ruler of Volga Bulgaria (or describe him in those terms). The translations and manuscript evidence are somewhat spotty, but they show how this title was used in context.

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Key Sources & Quotations

1. Ibn Fadlan, Risālah (Account of the Embassies / Travels, 921–22 CE)**

In his journey, Ibn Fadlan repeatedly refers to the Volga Bulgar ruler as malik aṣ-Ṣaqāliba (“king of the Saqaliba/Sakaliba”). (1)

For example, there is a passage:

> “When we were at a distance of a day’s and night’s journey from the king of Ṣaqāliba, he dispatched for our reception four kings who were under his rule, his brother, and his sons.” (1)

Also:

> “The king of the Ṣaqāliba … gave his daughter in marriage to the king of the Eskels, \a tribe which is under his command.” (1)

2. Yāqūt al-Ḥamawī referencing Kitāb (geographical/ethnographic work)**\*

Yāqūt in his Muʿjam al-Udabāʾ (drawing on earlier sources, including Ibn Fadlan’s Kitāb) also refers to the ruler as malik al-saqāliba. For instance, his entry on Bulgar consistently calls the king of the Bulgars “king of the Saqaliba” rather than “king of the Bulgars.” (2)

In that same tradition, the term “Bulgar” is often used to refer to the city (or political capital), while “Ṣaqāliba/Sakaliba” is used to refer to the ethnographic group under his rule. (2)

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#153325 (ツ) Последният акаунт на Единия
Създадено на 13.09.2025 , видяно: 362 пъти.

Стой си Стойчо у Канада

и недей купувай Лада!

#153327 (ツ) Дърти Хари
Създадено на 13.09.2025 , видяно: 355 пъти.
Последният акаунт на Единия

Стой си Стойчо у Канада

и недей купувай Лада!

Няма, ей ся да науча хиляда думи на български и тръгвам. Никакви уфлянквания повече!

#153335 (ツ) Последният акаунт на Единия
Създадено на 13.09.2025 , видяно: 330 пъти.
Дърти Хари

Няма, ей ся да науча хиляда думи на български и тръгвам. Никакви уфлянквания повече!

Ти луд ли си, бе - в Гетото има яко убийства, мизерия, мангали и малоумници. :'-( Как ще идваш тука, бе!? :'-(

Най-деградиралата територия. Стой си в родината и не идвай в Гетото... :'-(

#153386 (ツ) Дърти Хари
Създадено на 13.09.2025 , видяно: 301 пъти.

What is the relation between the name Asparuh and the chess pieces Aspa and Rukh?

That’s a really interesting connection you’ve noticed! Let’s break it down carefully:

1. Asparuh (Аспарух / Ἀσπαρούχ)**

Asparuh was the founder of the First Bulgarian Empire in the 7th century.

His name is of Iranian / Indo-Iranian origin**, from Aspa- (horse) + raukh / rukh (light, glory, or face).

Similar name patterns appear in Old Iranian and Sogdian (e.g., Aspandiar from aspa “horse” + ndar “possessing”).

So his name literally means something like “Horse-light,” “Horse-glory,” or “One with a horse’s radiance.”**

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2. Aspa in Chess**

In several languages, especially Persian and related traditions**, the knight** (horse piece) is called Asp or Aspa, from the same Indo-Iranian root aspa- = “horse.”

Even today in some Central Asian dialects and in Middle Persian texts, aspa = horse.

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3. Rukh in Chess**

The rook** comes from the Persian rukh, meaning chariot**.

In the original Indian chaturanga, the piece was a chariot**, not a castle tower. When it entered Persian and then Arabic, it kept the name rukh.

Over time in Europe, people reinterpreted it visually as a tower/fortress, but the name stuck.

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4. So, the Connection**

The name Asparuh** contains Aspa-** (“horse”) and ruh / rukh**, which resonates strongly with the chess terms:

Aspa → Knight (horseman)**

Rukh → Rook (chariot)**

In other words, his name almost literally combines two chess pieces: Knight + Rook**.

This isn’t a coincidence—both his name and the chess piece names come from the same Iranian linguistic-cultural background**. The Proto-Bulgars had close ties with Iranian and Turkic cultures, so the roots match.

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Conclusion**: The relation is linguistic and cultural. Asparuh’s name is made from the same Iranian roots (*aspa* = horse, rukh = face/glory/chariot) that later gave names to the Knight (Aspa)** and Rook (Rukh)** in chess. His very name almost sounds like a chessboard combination!

#153392 (ツ) Delegate
Създадено на 13.09.2025 , видяно: 291 пъти.

Само да са посегнАли на прото родината тия чефо-ути!

#153403 (ツ) Дърти Хари
Последно редактирано на 13.09.2025 от Дърти Хари, видяно: 275 пъти.

Няма прото родина както няма и прото родина на хамериканците или бразилците. Некви варвари са се събрали на северните склонове на Кавказ, омешали са се. Изчакали кутригурите и утигурите да се избият взаимно и са завзели властта.

#154448 (ツ) Дърти Хари
Създадено на 26.09.2025 , видяно: 127 пъти.

Аре още малко образование в петък. Айлячен ден за разпускане:

Great question — let’s explore who Zabergan was** and what his relationship was to the Bulgars**. This takes us into the complex world of 6th-century steppe politics and the fragmentation of post-Hunnic tribal confederations.

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🧑‍✈️ Who was Zabergan?

Zabergan** was a 6th-century leader (khagan)** of the Kutrigurs**, a nomadic steppe people of Hunnic origin. He is best known for leading a major invasion into the Byzantine Empire** during the reign of Emperor Justinian I** around 558–559 AD**.

Key Facts about Zabergan:

Leader of the Kutrigurs** (also called Kotrags** or Kotrighurs**).

In 558**, he led a major raid across the Danube**, threatening Constantinople.

His troops reportedly reached as far as Thrace**, Illyricum**, and even Chalcedon**, right across from Constantinople.

He was defeated by the famous general Belisarius**, who was recalled from retirement to defend the capital.

After this, Zabergan seems to fade from the historical record.

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🐎 Who were the Kutrigurs?

The Kutrigurs** were one of several Hunnic/Bulgar-related tribes** active in the Pontic-Caspian steppe** after the collapse of Attila’s Hunnic Empire (mid-5th century).

They were:

Closely related to the Utigurs**, another steppe nomadic group.

Considered part of the “Proto-Bulgar”** groupings by modern historians.

Culturally and linguistically tied to the Oghur branch** of Turkic languages (as were the later Bulgars**).

Involved in various raids and alliances with Byzantium**, sometimes hired as mercenaries, sometimes enemies.

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🤝 Relation of Zabergan** to the Bulgars**

✅ 1. Ethnic/Tribal Affiliation**:

Zabergan's Kutrigurs** are generally considered an early Bulgar people**, or at least closely related to them**.

Byzantine and later Slavic sources often refer to Kutrigurs and Utigurs** as two branches of the Bulgars**.

Some scholars think the name Bulgars** originally referred to a confederation** of such tribes, including:

Kutrigurs**

Utigurs**

Onogurs**

Barsils**

Possibly remnants of the Huns**, Alans**, Sabirs**, etc.

So in this sense:

> 🔹 Zabergan was a Bulgar leader**, by broader ethnic classification, though he specifically led the Kutrigur** branch.

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✅ 2. Political Role**:

Zabergan’s military raid into Byzantium** marks one of the earliest documented military actions by a Bulgar-related group**.

His actions — and the Byzantine response — helped shape future alliances** and divisions among Bulgar tribes**.

Emperor Justinian cleverly played the Utigurs against the Kutrigurs**, encouraging inter-tribal warfare that weakened both sides**.

This strategy:

Led to internal Bulgar conflict**,

Paved the way for later Bulgar consolidation** under leaders like Kubrat** (7th century),

And eventually the formation of Old Great Bulgaria** and Danubian Bulgaria**.

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✅ 3. Cultural/Political Legacy**:

Zabergan may not be the direct ancestor of later Bulgar khans (e.g., Kubrat or Asparukh), but he represents:

The first wave of Bulgar political-military assertion** in Eastern Europe,

A time when Bulgar groups were mobile, fragmented, and militarily active** on the steppe,

A precursor to the Bulgars’ eventual statehood** in the 7th century.

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🧭 Summary: Who Was Zabergan and His Link to the Bulgars

| Aspect | Zabergan | | - | - | | Title | Leader (khagan) of the Kutrigurs | | Date | Active ~558–559 AD | | Ethnicity/Language | Likely Oghuric Turkic, Bulgar-related | | Relation to Bulgars | Kutrigurs were an early Bulgar tribe** | | Historical Role | Invaded Byzantium; defeated by Belisarius | | Legacy | Early Bulgar power figure; part of the proto-Bulgar formation on the steppe |

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Would you like a map showing where the Kutrigurs and Bulgars were during Zabergan’s time? Or a timeline of early Bulgar history leading up to Kubrat and Asparukh?

Excellent — you're now focusing in on the possible Iranian origin** of the name Zabergan**, specifically the root "Zaberag"** (or "Zaberag" as a hypothetical original form). Let's explore this thoroughly from an Iranian linguistic** and historical** standpoint.

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🔍 Is Zaberag** a plausible Iranian name?

Step 1: Structure of the Name

Zaberag** looks like a compound, potentially of Avestan** or Middle Iranian** roots.

The "-ag"** ending can reflect a nominal suffix** in some Iranian languages, though more typically we see endings like ak**, an**, agan**, etc.

Let’s try to analyze "Zaberag"** as:

> Zabar** + ag** / ak** / agā**

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🏛️ Step 2: Root Zabar** in Iranian Languages

In Persian**:

زبر (zabar)**: means "strong, superior, above"**

Still used in Modern Persian** with this sense.

Found in Middle Persian (Pahlavi)** and possibly related to Old Iranian roots**.

In Avestan / Old Persian**:

Avestan likely root: zabara-**

Meaning: strong, mighty**, possibly from PIE root gʰebʰ- or sebar- (to be strong).

Compare with Sanskrit śibirá** ("stronghold") – similar-sounding but possibly unrelated.

Thus:

Zabar** in Iranian languages = "strong", "mighty", "upper"**, "superior"**

This makes it an excellent thematic root** for names and titles, especially for elite warriors, nobles, or rulers**.

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🧩 Step 3: Suffix Analysis

Now, what could the "-ag"** / "-agān"** ending be?

1. ag / ak** diminutive or nominalizer

In Middle Persian: ag** is often a nounforming suffix (like "-er" in English).

E.g., Kardag** ("doer", from kard = to do)

So Zabar-ag** = "the strong one"**, "the superior one"**

2. agān / gan** plural/collective

In Middle Persian and related Iranian languages:

agān / gān / ān** often indicates plurality**, lineage**, or association**

E.g., Artagan = people of Arta; Mehragan = feast of Mithra

So Zabaragān** could also mean:

“People of the strong one”**

Or “Clan of the mighty”**

That aligns well with a ruler's or chieftain’s title** — perhaps inherited.

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🧬 Step 4: Related Names in Iranian Onomastics

Here are some similar structure names from Iranian history:

| Name | Language | Meaning | | - | | - | | Mihragan** | Middle Persian | Festival of Mithra | | Bahramgan** | Middle Persian | Festival of Bahram (god of war) | | Artagan** | Sogdian / Middle Persian | Clan of Arta (truth, righteousness) | | Tirdad** | Parthian | "Given by Tir (god of arrow/mercury)" | | Zarir** | Avestan | From zairi- = "golden, shining" |

So a name like Zaberag** or Zabaragan** fits into the naming traditions of Eastern Iranian** peoples — like the Sarmatians**, Alans**, or early Parthians**.

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🛡️ Step 5: Historical Plausibility

The Kutrigurs** and related Hunnic/Bulgar groups inhabited areas long influenced by Iranian-speaking steppe cultures** — Sarmatians, Alans, etc.

Elite warrior names** were often of Iranian origin, even in Turkic or Hunnic groups.

The survival of a name like Zabergan** (Greek form) may reflect a Sarmato-Alanic title or personal name** transliterated by Byzantine authors.

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✅ Conclusion: Iranian Etymology of “Zaberag”

| Component | Meaning | | | - | | Zabar** | Strong, mighty, superior | | ag / gan** | Agentive or collective suffix | | Zaberag** or Zabaragan** | “The mighty one” or “He of the mighty clan” |

Thus, Zabergan** could very plausibly derive from an Eastern Iranian name** like Zabaragan**, which was Hellenized** into Ζαβεργάν**.

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Would you like me to reconstruct a possible Avestan or Middle Persian spelling** of the name for use in fiction or historical work?

#154451 (ツ) Дон Реба
Създадено на 26.09.2025 , видяно: 120 пъти.

ала бала, е виж:

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#154459 (ツ) Дърти Хари
Последно редактирано на 26.09.2025 от Дърти Хари, видяно: 110 пъти.

Ами да, Сашо Великиот ги е прайл сите македонци.

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А иначе оплакванията за анализите на Чат ГПТ да се отнасят към Сам Алтман, или директно към арменския поп.

rofl

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#154461 (ツ) Последният акаунт на Единия
Създадено на 26.09.2025 , видяно: 103 пъти.

Защо българи и македонци постоянно спорят за миналото си?

- Защото нямат бъдеще!

#154462 (ツ) Дърти Хари
Създадено на 26.09.2025 , видяно: 99 пъти.

Македонците не, но българите имат блестящо бъдеще, ей ся Единия кат замине за Германия и ше дръпнем напред.

:-D

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